Update: 0.8.3b
First of all, thank you Mr. Tag, for your early bug report and immediate workaround post in the comments for the 0.8.3 release. Building software for this community is made even better by the high caliber of email and blog comments. I love writing code anyway, but delivering the code to cool people is a super bonus. It was one of the reasons that I chose to work on the Mac platform in the first place.
I even enjoy tracking down nasty bugs as long as they show up before a public release. Tracking down a bug after a public release moves it from the “fun” column over into the “scary” column. Unfortunately, this time one got out into the wild. No data was harmed. Users of previous betas upgraded without issues as far as I can tell from all of the feedback. However, some new users were greeted with a not-so-hot disappearing app trick. Version 0.8.3b fixes the issue.
If your app did not launch properly, please download this new version. If you did not have any problems, then there is no need to grab the new version as there is no new functionality outside of that fix. This update has been tested on all current models, plus the older G4 models in all sorts of upgrade/overlap scenarios.
eatmytag wrote:
Nice work and you’re welcome Jon! At the moment though I am feeling more comfortable in kGTD since I can do sub-projects there and I am sort of used to the kGTD workflow.
However Actiontastic is MUCH better than Midnight Inbox which I found too restrictive and impossible to understand. Keep up the good work!
Posted on 20-Dec-06 at 2:28 pm | Permalink
Matt Mower wrote:
I didn’t immediately spy a better place to ask questions. I am not a GTD expert (although I read most of the book a few years back) so maybe I just don’t understand how I am supposed to work. To whit:
I created a project in which I have two actions (in the same context). Naively I would expect, when I visit the context, to only see the first action in the list (the next action) but I see both actions.
Perhaps this is better (I’m not sure, but it would seem less cluttered if I only saw the next thing to do for that project) because I have an overview? Perhaps it is simpler? Perhaps I’ve missed some way of setting task dependency and the list ordering doesn’t correspond to an implicit dependency among tasks?
Any pointers would be appreciated. Especially to a forum or other place to discuss Actiontastic.
Thanks. Matt.
Posted on 21-Dec-06 at 5:49 am | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@Matt:
While you are in the Context view, you can either see all tasks or, by clicking the “Next Action” filter above the list, view only the next action for each project in that context.
Posted on 21-Dec-06 at 8:12 am | Permalink
Brian L Stakes wrote:
Is there going to be support for printing? Being able to print lists by context and project would be a welcome change. Also, being able to print next action lists would be amazing.
Another idea that I had would be to include weekly review support. I envision this working in a similar fashion to the inbox processing feature. You hit the review button and every open task and project comes up in sequence. From there you have the ability yo mark tasks and projects as completed, switch contexts and the like.
Still, your software is a great implementation of GTD, and I love the Quicksilver plug-in.
Posted on 21-Dec-06 at 8:31 am | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@Brian:
Printing is a sure thing for a pre-1.0 release. Thanks for the idea about a weekly review function.
Posted on 21-Dec-06 at 9:05 am | Permalink
Zack wrote:
I second the weekly review request and would to have it be scheduled.
Posted on 21-Dec-06 at 12:22 pm | Permalink
Anders Betnér wrote:
I might be missing something, but wouldn’t a weekly review just be stepping through your projects? Like this: Click on “Single Actions”, ponder, down arrow, ponder, down arrow, ponder…
Does it really make sense to have a dedicated UI for that?
@eatmytag. I use a prefix to get sub projects. Project1-subthing1, Project1-subthing2
Posted on 21-Dec-06 at 3:47 pm | Permalink
Andrew wrote:
Tag, I’m with you - Actiontastic looks great but without support for sub-projects I can’t squeeze my life into it! MInbox looks so pretty but I’m damned if I can figure out how to work it. Maybe the long awaited Omnifocus is the GTD Holy Grail?
Posted on 22-Dec-06 at 8:19 am | Permalink
treyan wrote:
Any thought to intergrating with project management solutions, like 37 Signals’ BaseCamp, or even… (gasp)… Microsoft Project?
Posted on 22-Dec-06 at 3:18 pm | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@treyan:
There are no solid plans in that area at the moment. I can see BaseCamp integration working but will likely avoid integrating with Microsoft products.
Posted on 23-Dec-06 at 8:02 am | Permalink
Tim wrote:
Greetings!
Just getting ready to take Actiontastic for a spin. I’d be interested to see an extensive set of screenshots from the various sections to use as a set-up template. If you can share some shots with flying-car projects and related actions, I’d appreciate it.
One other suggestion: Please take a look at Easy Task Manager’s approach to the GTD calendar. It allows a view of “today” and “next seven days” that acts as a subset of 42 folders. They have a number of screenshots up for it at www.orionbelt.com.
Thanks for what looks like a simple, clean app,
Tim
Posted on 23-Dec-06 at 9:01 am | Permalink
Douglas Jarquin wrote:
Happy Holidays!
Jon, I wanted to thank you for making actiontastic such a great implementation of GTD.
After reading the book (3 times) and trying out *every other GTD app/implementation (both Mac and Web based) I can honetly say you have got it right. I also want to persuade you to keep actiontastic that way.
What is the Weekly Review?
Very simply, the Weekly Review is whatever you need to do to get your head empty again. It’s going through the five phases of workflow management–collecting, processing, organizing, and reviewing all your outstanding involvements–until you can honestly say, “I absolutely know right now everything I’m not doing but could be doing if I decided to.”
–from David Allen’s Getting Things Done
So, I do have to agree with Anders Betnér above. Please do not include a “Weekly Review” function. It is simply not necessary.
These are things that apps like the “bloated” Midnight Inbox get wrong. We have to keep in mind that GTD, in its simplest form, can be managed, very effecively, with paper and pen.
Posted on 23-Dec-06 at 5:36 pm | Permalink
Steve wrote:
I’m going to chime in on this release. I still would like to see more keyboard shortcuts to move around without having to use the tab key so heavily. I also think that the new “Process Inbox” is not needed. I think it starts actiontastic down the path of adding unnecessary features. What makes this tool so cool to me is its incredible focus and simplicity. Midnight Inbox although really looking cool is insanely confusing and not coincidentally is loaded with this sort of wizard bloat.
My 2 cents…
Posted on 25-Dec-06 at 8:12 am | Permalink
Anders Betnér wrote:
@steve
The inbox was a pain to process before the “Process inbox” appeared. Without it you can make an item in the inbox an action, but then you would have to go to projects to give the action a context and if it belongs to a project you have to drag it to that project. The new “Process inbox” does all that in one swift elegant sweep. (This is just my opinion, so feel free to disregard it.)
Posted on 25-Dec-06 at 3:51 pm | Permalink
Steve wrote:
@Anders,
Yeah I have reconsidered and I basically agree. Some form of weekly review with parameters per project or context would also be cool. I would just hate to see the tool get overly fancy. Being able to get in and out quickly is a big reason I use Actiontastic.
Posted on 25-Dec-06 at 7:09 pm | Permalink
brett wrote:
I have a question I haven’t found an answer for.
I downloaded and was using 0.8.2beta for a few weeks. I just got back from vacation today and my older version expired around the 18th but I was away and now I can not get into the old versions data. How can I retrieve the data from the previous version to bring into the newer version?
Posted on 26-Dec-06 at 10:04 am | Permalink
ratz wrote:
It doesn’t have to get overly fancy to support weekly reviews. The Project view is almost there
Example: If any project that did not have a next action, had an icon that appeared next to it; or it turn a different color text background color. You have pretty much all you needed.
Posted on 26-Dec-06 at 1:46 pm | Permalink
Ian wrote:
Greetings.
The “pause” and “start date” features don’t seem to be working for me in v0.8.3b. What I mean is that actions show up in the context view even when the action is paused, or has a start date in the future, or the action’s project is paused, or has a start date in the future. This is true no matter what mode I have the actions, projects, and contexts lists (All, Current, ToDo, Next Action, etc.).
I had been under the impression that this feature was in fact implemented. Am I wrong, or just confused?
Thanks,
:ian
Posted on 27-Dec-06 at 5:05 pm | Permalink
ratz wrote:
Also noticed that the “All” and “current” aren’t working in the context and project view yet.
Posted on 27-Dec-06 at 7:52 pm | Permalink
Scott wrote:
I like the app a lot - first time trying one of these GTD type things - just trying to make sense of a lot of to-dos for various consulting clients - usually quick one offs, but being able to track by client is fantastic.
Which leads me to the issue: I have about 20 clients with tasks - and running through the F3 process is pretty quick, until i have to scroll down through the 20 projects to find the right one. Any shortcuts or planned shortcuts for picking one more quickly?
I noticed I can tab through the entry pages, and use arrow keys, but trying to think of a way to move even faster.
But so far, you have another buyer.
Posted on 27-Dec-06 at 11:04 pm | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@brett:
If you download the latest version, 0.8.3b, it will import your data automatically during the first launch. If you have any trouble, just send an email to jon at kaboomerang dot com and I will assist you.
@Everyone:
Good points have been made about the Weekly Review. At this point, I think the best thing will be to just keep it flexible and avoid any sort of wizard or “process” for something that is fairly custom for each person.
To those mentioning the incomplete pause and start date functionality are correct. An attempt was made to bring this up in the “Things that could be better” section of the 0.8.3 announcement, but I should have made it more clear. Right now, pausing a project hides it from the project list on the left. Pausing a context does the same. A full tie in with the action views should be ready for the next release. It just didn’t make the safe cut off time to get it out there before the previous beta expired.
@Scott:
Yes, more shortcut and tab refinements will be available in a future release.
Posted on 28-Dec-06 at 9:31 am | Permalink
brett wrote:
Hey there,
I downloaded the app again, reinstalled (dragged it over) and it picked up my data. I don’t know why this behavior happened but I have my data back.
Thanks much,
Brett
Posted on 28-Dec-06 at 1:16 pm | Permalink
Andy wrote:
I tried Midnight Inbox, but it was unecessarily complex, if gorgeous to look at. In the end I gave up because there were no help files to help me through it.
If you can’t pick up Actiontastic straight away and use it you really need a kick somewhere!
Requests:
Notebook uses a syncing icon over the top of the dock icon that looks cool. Something similar, perhaps in the app would be good. I assume that it auto-syncs to an iPod when connected.
It would be useful if Notes in the Project details pane were visible on the iPod.
Great app - thanks a lot.
Posted on 28-Dec-06 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
Nils wrote:
Excellent piece of software. Two suggestions:
- Most projects have more than one possible next action (e.g. clean up apartment with lots of things to do :-)
- An XML-based import/export feature.
Posted on 28-Dec-06 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
pauln wrote:
Wow. I tried to get kGTD working for me, but it just seemed to heavy… Definitely found the app to allow me to get GTD into my day-to-day. Can’t wait for the iCal integration. And yes, I’ll be another buyer…
Posted on 28-Dec-06 at 2:44 pm | Permalink
Roger W wrote:
I second the iCal integration. But how will it be done? Just Next Actions or projects/contexts of choice?
Posted on 28-Dec-06 at 4:00 pm | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@Andy:
I agree that notes would be useful on the iPod too and am looking into this.
@Nils:
Import/Export is a planned feature, and the multiple next action idea is on the brainstorming board (thinking about interactions with other areas of the app).
@pauln, Roger W:
iCal integration is in the works. Currrently, I am trying the calendar-per-context method but may try others before ultimately releasing the feature.
Posted on 28-Dec-06 at 8:35 pm | Permalink
Roger W wrote:
Calendar per context will be fine (I think) but please make it possible to choose which contexts to sync
Posted on 29-Dec-06 at 2:37 am | Permalink
Andy wrote:
I never thought I would say this, but this might well be a suitable replacement for Circus Ponies Notebook as far as GTD is concerned.
The thing that I particularly like about Notebook is the ability to be able to export notes that get around the 4,000 character limit of iPod notes by creating (sort of) sub-notes.
Posted on 29-Dec-06 at 9:14 am | Permalink
BB wrote:
The app looks great.
I’d like to add a request that start and due date options be given DURING processing, so that I don’t have to manually go back and add them to each action (most of my work-related actions have due dates).
Also, I’d love to see color coding for overdue/upcoming due dated actions, a la Tracks.
If these were implemented, I’d probably move over from Tracks. It looks great!
Posted on 29-Dec-06 at 10:16 am | Permalink
BB wrote:
Hi - I have another question (and couldn’t find any kind of contact info on here).
If it’s possible to sync to the iPod as notes, I’m assuming that Actiontastic is creating some kind of text file. I don’t have an iPod, but would love to be able to print as a text file. Is this possibile?
Thanks,
BB
Posted on 29-Dec-06 at 11:25 am | Permalink
A. Wang wrote:
This is truly one of the better Mac implementations of David Allen’s GTD that I have ever touched upon.
I was using kGTD successfully (mostly) for a couple months before I finally saw this on Merlin’s 43folders blog. I really like the slick and simple surface that really emphasizes David’s idea of just a simple “list maker.” (Unlike the beautiful but terribly bloated Midnight Inbox)
However, what really provoked me to switch was the iPod syncing. It’s great! I love the simplicity, and I carry my iPod everywhere– my new “hipster Pod” plus “hipster PDA” combination really does it for me.
I also like the idea of iCal integration and printing options.
So far, this latest version has been pretty stable and helpful.
Thanks very much and keep up the good work,
A. Wang
Posted on 29-Dec-06 at 3:35 pm | Permalink
super8trash wrote:
I’d really like to start working with this application. But I am hesitating because the notes I make in the sidebar keep randomly disappearing. (They are not saved when I reopen the program.) Anyone else having this problem?
Looks very promising however! Thanks.
Posted on 29-Dec-06 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@Roger W:
Selectable contexts (a la iPod sync) is a good idea. Thank you.
@Everyone:
Thank you for the encouragement and kind words!
@Andy:
Note spanning is a good idea. I will give this some thought.
@BB:
Thank you for the ideas. The printing feature will be available in one of the next releases.
@super8trash:
This is the first report of that kind. I will look into it and provide a fix in the next release if I can reproduce it.
Posted on 29-Dec-06 at 4:19 pm | Permalink
A. Wang wrote:
Whenever Actiontastic syncs with my iPod, it creates for each text file a corresponding 3 digit number in front and the actual “to do” afterwards. I’m assuming this is a clever way to prevent the iPod from just organizing the lists in alphabetical order.
However, whenever there are 10 or more context list items, the 10th list item always leaves out the 1st zero and only appears as “10″ instead of “010″ as the other text files seem to indicate it should.
Thus, the list item is out of order in my iPod. I hope I’m not the only one who has this problem?
Also, I’d like to suggest that command-I be used as the shortcut for the information sidebar. I love shortcuts! :D
Keep up with the great work,
A. Wang
Posted on 29-Dec-06 at 7:09 pm | Permalink
Anders Betnér wrote:
@super8trash
Are you sure they are gone? If you highlight a project and make a note the note will show next time you click on the project. But it you highlight an action the note will be bound to that action. (you’d have to click on that particular action to see the note)
Posted on 29-Dec-06 at 8:18 pm | Permalink
super8trash wrote:
@ Anders Betnér
I understand what you’re pointing at. Still, most of the time, the notes attached to the Project, Action or Context Details keep disappearing. I already reinstalled the program after ‘appzappin’ but to no avail… (OS 10.4.8 here)
Posted on 30-Dec-06 at 4:00 am | Permalink
super8trash wrote:
Concerning the disappearing notes in the sidebar, I don’t know why this happens here but I think I found out when this happens and when not.
- Write down a note anywhere. Immediately save and close Actiontastic. Reopen the program. The note just disappeared.
- Write down a note anywhere. First jump to another action/project/context and then close Actiontastic. Reopen the program. Your note is still there.
I wonder if somebody else can reproduce this behavior.
Posted on 30-Dec-06 at 4:01 pm | Permalink
pauln wrote:
Finally thought of an feature item… Because I was needing it today. Anybody suggested that Actions have a hierarchy? As my project actions are often made up of smaller items, that I’d like to track with one larger global rollup item, it would be very handy to have an OO-type parent-child relationship. Probably really difficult to do - I’m just using spaces and numbering to do it, but that’s a manual kludge.
An example is: I have a first revision of wireframes to complete for a client. It consists of three sections. I’d like to deal with each section as a separate action… Does that make sense?
And keep up the good work - I’m pretty pleased with how this app fits into my previously GTD-less workflow…
Posted on 30-Dec-06 at 6:08 pm | Permalink
Scott wrote:
Wonderful app!
When in the inbox, how about using enter (vs. return) to enter the current item, and immediately start a new one? Would be great when inputting lots of items. Currently you have to hit apple-n, return, apple-n, return. Enter, enter is quicker…
Keep it up, and keep it slim!
Posted on 30-Dec-06 at 9:35 pm | Permalink
ratz wrote:
Keeping with the minimalist interface.
Cmd-Click to select multiple projects
or contexts and view there associated actions in a single list.
Also is there a place we can send in sample data for developer review. so you can see how people are using it; and thus guiding the development.
Posted on 30-Dec-06 at 10:17 pm | Permalink
BB wrote:
Still really enjoying Actiontastic. One feature I find myself really yearning for is Search… because sometimes I can’t remember if I already put something in. Might that be a possibility?
happy new year!
Posted on 01-Jan-07 at 11:11 am | Permalink
Walter wrote:
Hi Jon,
congrats for the most useful GTD app so far! (despite what DA says being able to see actions by projects is key to an effective review).
-When I create a NA with a start date in the future because it cannot be done before that date, it still appears in my “next actions” view. Am I missing something?
-I think a “search” function through projects and NA would be great.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers,
Walter
Posted on 01-Jan-07 at 12:32 pm | Permalink
Jon wrote:
A. Wang:
I will look into the task numbering issue and get a fix in the next release if I can reproduce it.
Posted on 02-Jan-07 at 8:22 am | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@super8trash:
Thanks for the extra info. I can reproduce this on my laptop and will get a fix in the next release.
Posted on 02-Jan-07 at 8:34 am | Permalink
Ron wrote:
Just discovered Actiontastic. Thank you for all the work you’re putting in to develop it!
Posted on 02-Jan-07 at 10:17 am | Permalink
Warner Onstine wrote:
Is there a place to post bugs? If not I would like to recommend http://www.ticketeverything.com that a friend of mine did for just such a purpose.
Posted on 02-Jan-07 at 10:50 am | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@pauln:
Subprojects are on the list of possible future features, but as of now they aren\’t slated for a concrete release. Several people have suggested this, so I am keeping it on the brainstorming list and considering the ins and outs of choosing next actions within subprojects.
@Scott:
Thanks for the suggestion. \”Enter\” for adding a new action in the inbox is under consideration. Pressing Esc would be the logical way to exit this mode but would add that extra keystroke to the project and context areas as well where dumping multiple items may not be as common (not sure of everyone\’s behavior here). Perhaps I need to solicit some more feedback in this area or simply make it a preference.
@ratz:
Multiple selection as you describe is in the works. Sample data could always be emailed to jon at kaboomerang dot com if there is any that you wish to provide. A more formal pooling of this data might be easier once I get a forum online.
@BB and Walter:
Search is on the list of planned features but doesn\’t have a concrete release date yet.
@Walter:
You are not missing anything :-) This was listed in the \”Things that could be better\” area of the 0.8.3 announcement and was simply excluded due to time constraints. This lower level action filter that you describe will be available in one of the very next releases.
@Ron:
Thanks!
@Warner:
Currently, bugs are posted in the blog comments or (usually) emailed directly to jon at kaboomerang dot com. I will check out the app that you linked. Thank you.
Posted on 02-Jan-07 at 10:59 pm | Permalink
Obyor wrote:
One more feature request: A simple way to switch between a tasks in the project view and the same task in the context view. That’s currently the one and only feature i’m missing. Oh, wait… it’s not possible to control Actiontastic completly by keyboard. That’s also important for daily use.
But… Thank you, Jon, for the clearest and simply the best GTD implementation on any plattform. I can’t wait to use the 1.0.
Posted on 03-Jan-07 at 3:40 am | Permalink
TomS wrote:
Great application! …. would be nice if I could print information, as well as sort actions.
Thanks!
Posted on 03-Jan-07 at 10:59 am | Permalink
Michael wrote:
I am just starting to implement GTD, and am looking for a system to incorporate. So far I’m just using the GTDgmail FF extension, but want something more comprehensive.
This looks like a great app, and I want to use it, my only concern is what happens when it leaves beta? Purchasing an app isn’t the concern, just not knowing what the price range will be, etc. Just starting out, I don’t want to get comfortable and then be priced out. I did a quick search, and nothing came up, so I’m sorry if this has been asked before. In the meantime, I’m going to test it out. Thanks for the preview release regardless.
Posted on 03-Jan-07 at 4:00 pm | Permalink
Martin wrote:
Three suggestions for future release:
1) add support for system’s date format;
2) add Applescript support so integration with other tools than Quicksilver will be possible;
3) Localization in other languages.
Thank you and keep up the good work!
Posted on 04-Jan-07 at 9:37 am | Permalink
James Byers wrote:
Minor bug report: 0.8.3 allows you to enter an action with no name. When you quit or save, you get a “name is a required value” error. This is a bit creepy, as you have to find and fix the busted action before you can exit. Suggest disallowing empty names on entry.
Speaking of save, it seems to me that the database should automatically be committed on every change if it doesn’t already - this might make an explicit save action unnecessary. I keep actiontastic running for long periods of time, I’d feel better if I didn’t have to think about saving in case of a crash.
Thanks!
James
Posted on 06-Jan-07 at 8:51 pm | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@Everyone:
Thank you for the feature requests. If they weren’t already on the “decide” or “implement” lists, they are now.
@Michael:
The app will be available for a reasonable price once the beta expires, but I haven’t nailed down the exact amount at this point. More details will be posted on this site as they are solidified.
@James Byers:
Thanks for the report. This bug should be fixed in an upcoming release.
Posted on 07-Jan-07 at 4:34 pm | Permalink
Andy Fragen wrote:
Jon,
You should check out this Mac desktop-based PocketMod app. http://weblog.bignerdranch.com/?p=23
If printing from Actiontastic could be directly into such a format that would be awesome.
Posted on 08-Jan-07 at 5:07 pm | Permalink
Nick wrote:
I find it disruptive that the actiontastic window opens every time I use quicksilver to send it a task. Is there a way to turn this feature off? Thanks.
-Nick
Posted on 09-Jan-07 at 2:52 pm | Permalink
BB wrote:
Nick, if you keep Actiontastic open but hidden (either actually hidden or if you just have another application open on top of it) the window doesn’t open when you add tasks through quicksilver.
Hope that helps…
BB
Posted on 09-Jan-07 at 8:31 pm | Permalink
Michael wrote:
Maybe I’ve missed something, and maybe I haven’t totally grasped GTD, but how are people doing “some day/maybe” with actiontastic?
A separate project?
Posted on 11-Jan-07 at 4:44 pm | Permalink
Nick wrote:
BB,
Thanks for the advice.
Nick
Posted on 12-Jan-07 at 8:40 am | Permalink
Roger Wiese wrote:
Great program, the one idea I have is to somehow identify items in the project list or in the Context list so you will know that there are open items under specific items. That would help so you dont have to go through each of them to find the open items.
It would also be very helpful to have a report that could be generated that would list all the open items and their projcet and Context for easy review and action.
Great program looking forward to the next version that should be out in a couple of days
Keep up the good work
Posted on 12-Jan-07 at 1:59 pm | Permalink
James wrote:
I just started GTD with Actiontastic this week. So far, it’s awesome! But I totally second #55. The PocketMod idea is excellent and would be made even better if you could populate it with Actiontastic data in one go…oh, the bliss.
I thought the iPod integration would do it for me when I leave the computer, but the lack of interactivity is more frustrating than I would have thought (certainly not Actiontastic’s doing). Anyway, even if you decide against the PocketMod idea, it would be nice to have the option of exporting data to an easy to parse format, say XML or something, so that others could build on your already solid foundations. I’d always come back to Actiontastic to re-process the next batch of actions. Promise.
Thanks for all the hard work!
Posted on 13-Jan-07 at 1:21 am | Permalink
BB wrote:
Ummm… is the software really going to expire at midnight tonight? I was hoping for a bit more transfer time, since I need to leave home at 7:30am and wanted to be able to move to the new version before going to bed. Any chance you could make these betas NOT expire so that we don’t have to upgrade so precipitiously?
Thanks - BB
Posted on 14-Jan-07 at 5:31 pm | Permalink
Jon wrote:
@BB:
Yes, the software will expire at midnight, but the latest version, 0.9, is now available for download in the side bar under the icon. A post about the features is on the way. All of your data will remain as-is after copying the new version over the old one in your Applications folder. This new release has an extended expiration date.
Posted on 14-Jan-07 at 11:51 pm | Permalink